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Whenever I ask for topic ideas (and even sometimes when I have not put out such a request) many people have the same suggestion. "You're having a boy. You should write about circumcision."


Cuts Like A Knife - Bryan Adams

Our son will not be circumcised.

Before we delve any deeper into this topic (which I expect will bring out some heated emotions in the comments, regardless of where I stand), I want to state up front that I am giving my opinion. I am not telling anyone else what to do, so please don't tell me what to do. In other words, feel free to disagree, but above all, be nice.

In some religions, circumcision is a ceremonial rite of passage for a baby. It is not my intention to pass judgment on people who practice these faiths. However, it is my opinion that I can respect their right to practice their faith while still finding some rites unnecessary or uncomfortable without disrespecting their faith itself.

For the record, in Ontario, circumcision is technically listed as cosmetic surgery. It is elective, and not covered under the provincial health insurance plan (OHIP).

In some families, the final decision rests with the father, and many men make the decision based on the one their parents made for him (also known as the "be like Daddy" argument). While I understand the underlying rationale, I have to wonder: how do these fathers explain other physical differences? A man-child will not be a clone of his father; other parts of him will not "be like Daddy", so why is something that is hidden from view 99% of the time so critical to be matching? Another argument is that a circumcised peni$ is a clean peni$. This is an urban myth. If proper hygiene is taught, an uncircumcised peni$ is just as clean (some have argued cleaner, but I will leave it at equally clean) as a circumcised one.

Since I anticipate the question will arise, I am uncircumcised. In all honesty, I don't remember whether or not my father is circumcised, but if my recollection is correct, he is circumcised. My mother believed, despite what the doctors in the 1970s told her, that it was cruel and unnecessary, and my father deferred to her. However, my opinions about circumcision have nothing to do with the state of my own genitals.

Truthfully, the idea of someone using a knife on my man parts makes me squeemish. The idea of someone doing that to my son makes me even more uncomfortable. So, if the doctors don't think it's necessary, then I see no point in putting him through such an ordeal. (And to those who will say that the baby doesn't remember it, I honestly don't care. I will remember it, and I will know that someone did that to him.)

In reality, this decision isn't forever. In some cases, a boy may have an overly tight foreskin, a condition that may require a circumcision to correct. And in other cases, a man may choose to be circumcised as an adult. However, in both those cases, the decision is made for reasons I can accept, and the decision is not made at a mere few days old.

Bottom line: our son will not be circumcised, at least not now.



I also have another post up at Babies Online, where I look at a study that has found that an absent father means earlier puberty in girls.

20 shared their side:

LD said...

Our son isn't either.
Just a point of interest, I asked at his daycare what the ratio of circumcised boys was. (this was in downtown Toronto and the class was definitely mixed races). They told me that in their centre it's about 50/50 and that more than 75% of the boys who are circumcised have had it done for religious reasons.
I thought that was interesting.
For us it was a non-issue. I asked my midwife and she gave me many reasons against it (though her son is circumcised since they are Jewish). I agreed.
It's never been an issue with us.
Matt has noticed the difference between him and Daddy, but it's never been a problem, just a point of interest.
The only person we ever got flack from was my sister in law and it's really NONE of her business (and she has an opinion on everything)

smiles4u said...

I think it is good that you know how you feel about circumcision and are basing your decision on what you think is right. I know there are people that feel very strongly one way or another about this subject, I am not one of them.

steenface! said...

It's probably because I don't have a child but I guess I don't understand why it's such a big deal. I mean, it's your child, right? I know there are arguments for and against circumcision but ultimately, it's your choice and really a matter of preference.

I suppose that, when and if I'm ever in that position, I'll have more concrete feelings about it but, for now, I just don't see what the big stink about it is. It's your family's business and no one else's.

Avitable said...

Just an aside - I think you need to stop apologizing for stating your opinions on your blog. You've done that a few times, and I don't think it's necessary.

Secondly, I think it's funny that you spelled penis with a $. Was there a reason for that?

I think as long as you make sure you teach your son to keep everything clean, it's no big deal, but I've had way too many female friends who have horror stories about poorly hygenic uncircumcised penises to ever support that for my own child (at the point that I have one, if I have one).

Russ said...

Mr. B is circumcised, and I was there for it (two rooms and a hallway away). He has never made those screams before or since and I'm not sure I've totally forgiven myself for doing it to him. I a way, I'm glad that we had a daughter, for multiple reasons, not just snipping.

Ali said...

Josh is circumcised.
it was a decision i made without hesitation. as a jew, it was important for my husband and for our families. and although i'm not religious, it is still extremely important to us.

i'm glad that i didn't *have* to make the decision, though.

Ali said...

but i DO have to agree. your site. you don't need the apology. ;)

AndreAnna said...

This is one of those topics I didn't really discuss on my blog because I knew the commenters would have an opinion shit fit and start fighting.

For us, we talked about it for like 10 seconds and then decided not to do it. It's his foreskin. I'm not taking it off of him; he was born with it and I'm not cutting off a normal healthy piece of his body without his permission.

It's one of those things where people will think their way is the right way no matter what, and yes, dude, you totally need to stop apologizing.

mamatulip said...

Must chime in with the masses here - don't apologize for your thoughts and opinions. That's the beauty of the net - if someone doesn't like it, there's a little red x up there in the corner they can click.

Miss Britt said...

My son isn't either. And my husband is. And he feels the same about the "be like Daddy" argument that you do.

I think it's awesome that circumcision is considered cosmetic by your health care system.

Aunt Becky said...

Oh, this is gonna heat up, SciFi. Kinda like my Nut Ban!

My boys are both snipped, unapologetically so, and if this third one is a boy? Same snippy-snip. But hey, I'm not militant about either way. In fact, I don't care.

Anissa Mayhew said...

My husband isn't and our son is. We'd never talked about that before and I just had it done at the hospital. Hubs FREAKED the hell out when he found out...got all mad and stormed out of the hospital...where I was laying postpartum (so maybe he pulled the jackass card on the WRONG day, but anyways)and emotional. It is one of those things that once it's done its done and there's sure as hell no going back.

But never has my hubs and son stood around and compared, so I don't think it was as big a deal as he made it out to be. Which is not to say it's not a BIG deal ;)

James Austin said...

Lukas is and I had to make the decision and be there for it which was painful, painful to witness (I fainted). I was very split on the decision, but went ahead with it anyway because I felt that the benefits slightly outweighed the benefits of not having it done. I can't say that I was right about that because there are arguments for either choice.

I can say that it was painful for him at the time and that he was over it soon after and will not remember. You are correct, I will remember though and I am ok with that because I am doing the best I can for him with the information I have. I am not going to carry that as a burden over the years.

I respect your choice. You are doing what you think is right with the information you have. Good for you for giving it so much thought.

Mandy said...

Well, I know I was just kidding when I suggested you write about it. I know what a maelstrom it can cause amongst parents.

Our boys aren't (my husband is). I see it as an argument in which you cannot change the opponent's mind, so it's really not worth having with another parent.

daysgoby said...

I'd never seen an uncircumcised penis. Had no idea what to do with an uncircumcised penis.

My doctor had me in for a long lunch hour and we had Penis Day Camp.
(Why, yes, it WAS surreal talking about my baby's equipment in the middle of a busy deli, but what are you going to do?)

So far, the only studies I've read (and I will be the first to admit I haven't read everything) that would compel me to circumcise (if we had another child) would be the fact that in the African nations men with uncircumcised penises have about a 25% more chance of catching the HIV virus - the thought is that fluids from sex get caught under the foreskin and enter into the body through the membranes there.

But I also believe that teaching my child about sex and sickness and how to protect himself is up to me, too.

And now I've written a book!

Dorothy said...

Wow, that was interesting hearing your thoughts. I agree, it's personal and you've done a great job with your feelings.

Blessings as your family continues to grow.


Dorothy from grammology
www.grammology.com

Kyddryn said...

I didn't really give my husband a choice - I told him we weren't circumcising our son. If the Evil Genius wants it done he can make that choice when he's an adult living on his own. It's not a choice I feel right making for him. Cool post.

Shade and Sweetwater,
K

crazymumma said...

ick. ouch.

We would not have circumcised either if we had had a boy.

Raging Dad said...

Dude, I totally just posted on this same topic on my blog. Like you, there was no way I was going to let anybody take a knife to my boys' boys. I am circumcised myself, and totally don't care if their willies look like mine. Glad to hear I am not the only one!

TD said...

I used to be totally ignorant of the lifelong damage caused by RIC until my late wife educated me prior to the arrival of our son (now 14 and very much intact).

There have always been arguments for continuing the practice, but a modicum of education will reveal those arguments are not very compelling (the HIV studies in Africa were flawed from the start, and the American Cancer society says penile cancer has nothing to do with circ status).

The way I see it, as a parent, it is my duty to protect my child from harm, and to protect his human rights. I very much see RIC as a violation of those rights, and the harms are well known. So it's not my decision to make. It's his.

Thanks for talking about this. More parents need to think before they cut.